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Episode 6: With an X

Postby Jeremy » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:15 pm

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I don't know ... who Clay's hitting, except for you. I'm sure he's hitting you, cause you're his wife and all.
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Re: Episode 6: With an X

Postby Jeremy » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:18 pm

I don't know ... who Clay's hitting, except for you. I'm sure he's hitting you, cause you're his wife and all.
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Re: Episode 6: With an X

Postby bigmike619 » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:17 pm

Juice got luuuuuuuuuuuuuuucky!! but that is going to catch up with him one way or the other. either theyre going to review tape and see Miles wasnt there or the cop is going to sell him out. I cant understand the color thing though. They do business with the Niners and other black gangs but yet if Juice is part black they will kick him out?

Tara was looking good at the beginning of the season like she had lost weight but now she is looking pretty pale and almost like she isnt meant to be that skinny.

and i freaking LOVE Wayne for coming up with such a brilliant idea to put that note in her car. Talk about forward thinking. thats going to put the whole club (except Clay of course) on high alert and will probably kick off a war with Romeo.
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Re: Episode 6: With an X

Postby chande » Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:34 pm

with an x was such a pivotal episode. I think Juice is in big trouble. I think Chibbs is onto him and what he will do with that is the question. He just was looking so suspiciously at him. And it seems like someone from the club is going to end up dead. Either Piney or Juice. Seems like Clay is getting tired of Ol' Piney. And he really doesn't give a crap who he does away with. He has no problem putting a hit on Tara. I hope it is not her that gets it. I hope Juice can find his way out of the trouble he is in. And I don't think we have seen the last of the blond bimbo. she may still come after Tara. Anyway I thought this episode was the best yet this season.
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Re: Episode 6: With an X

Postby BigJim » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:13 pm

Juice has to die. He killed an innocent brother and has turned rat. The best he can do is man up to the club about what he has done and ask for a quick death.
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Re: Episode 6: With an X

Postby BigJim » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:19 pm

bigmike619 wrote: cant understand the color thing though. They do business with the Niners and other black gangs but yet if Juice is part black they will kick him out?.

Most of the 1%er clubs were founded back in the '30s to '50s when segregation was the excepted norm. As a result the clubs had rules to enforce segregation. Over time these rules became part of their culture and clubs founded since them have accepted those rules as their own. As Chibs explained to Juice those are the rules and we can't choose which ones to obey or not to obey or club will fall apart.
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Re: Episode 6: With an X

Postby bigmike619 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:28 pm

I didnt mean I dont understand the rule period but with the Sons it seems like they accept foreigners (Chibs), latins (Happy) and do business with every color under the rainbow. Why they would have a problem with Juice who is only half black seems odd to me.

Shit, they can just say he is half Puerto Rican and be finished with it. But I have a feeling Juice has gone too far and will end up with a bullet in his head.
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Re: Episode 6: With an X

Postby Jeremy » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:01 am

This was a huge episode. The best of the season for sure.

I can't believe Juice has slid as far as he has. It goes to show how slippery the slopes are in this world. One of the greatest things about this show is how realistic it is, and how it shows how one small choice can snowball into something huge and out of control. Juice was pushed into a corner and it made him desperate. This isn't over for juice. Chibs has been suspicious of him for quite some time, with the frequent cell phone checking and darting away. He knows something is up and he'll be the one to uncover this later.

As far as color, as chibs says you can't just pick which rules to follow so it makes sense why it would be a big deal. However like you guys say they let latinos in, and deal with blacks and latinos so they should change the rules. Surely there has been rule changes to this club in the last 30 years.

I worry about Tara. Clay is really desperate and it's showing. He's making huge mistakes and it's going to blow up. When Jax finds out about this that's the end for Clay. He will kill him for this. I just dont understand how he could make the choices he makes. How could he have been running this club the last 20 years is beyond me. Every time he's put in a tight spot he makes the wrong decision. I understand he may have defaulted in but how has he lasted this long?

The thing with Tig and his daughter was fairly predictable. It was obvious she was ripping him off and you could tell he enjoyed being with her so much he would go along with it. It was nice to see some depth to Tig, but the scene played out pretty much exactly as we thought it would. It's amazing how much my view of Tig has changed over the years. Not sure about you guys but I think his character has been carved out really well and I love to hate the guy.

I was glad to see what Jax did to Ima. I was really questioning it when I saw him walking back there with her to get another piece, it just didn't make sense. But I was expecting a "talk", the head slam definitely took me by complete surprise. Good job Jax, way to start doing the right thing.

And for Unser, man i just feel so bad for the guy. He's just a nice old guy who has fallen from grace and dying. Yet he is still risking himself to save Tara. What he did at the end was awesome.
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Re: Episode 6: With an X

Postby Jeremy » Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:02 am

BigJim wrote:Juice has to die. He killed an innocent brother and has turned rat. The best he can do is man up to the club about what he has done and ask for a quick death.


I agree. I would have never thought I'd say this about him as he was always one of my favorite characters, but it's time for him to go.
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Re: Episode 6: With an X

Postby BigJim » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:58 pm

I would not be surprised if Clay has Unser killed. Right now Unser posses an extreme threat to him and the club. Unser is retired and dieing. There is nothing Clay can hold over him anymore. He has made it clear his first interest was for the town and not himself when he looked the other way when the club did illegal things. I would not be surprised if he doesn't spill his guts to the authorities and Jax in an attempt to make things right before he dies.
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